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Relationships have to be nourished and fed. I’m not even talking about the romantic or friendship kind – I’m talking about work and professional relationships. You can’t just expect someone to connect with you or be able to work with you if they don’t trust you – and trust can’t just happen without connection.

And you can’t speed up a connection. It takes time.

You can make sure you’re making some real connection with active listening, specifically listening for gifts in conversation.

In our classes in NYC and LA, we focus on interpersonal impromptu communication – that is, the communication that you can’t necessarily plan for. It’s the stuff that happens, the conversations and the back and forth that make so many of us so nervous…and I would hazard to say we panic because we’ve “failed” in the past. Know what failure in conversation is?

Not listening.

Truly! When you don’t listen, you can’t contribute! And when you do listen, you can add and contribute and have a fun back and forth. Without it, you’re just talking at one another.

Since active listening is something we feel that improv elevates and expands, I want to help you understand an aspect of listening that I think a lot of folks miss, and it’s called listening for gifts. A gift is any bit of information that you can pick up and use to further a conversation. For example, say I spend some time telling you about the plants I have in my house, and I mention one of my favorite plants is a monstera. The gifts in my contribution are my plants, a house, and the monstera – all details you can use to either ask questions, make comments or connect in the conversation. For example:

-You could ask questions about plants, ask for advice on a plant you have at home or talk about your favorite plant.
-You could ask about where I live, what my house looks like or talk about your own house.
-You could ask about monsteras or talk about your monstera.

By taking these bits of information, you’re picking up the gifts and connecting to what the other person is saying using this information – instead of just shooting in the dark or having superficial small talk. Of course, there are better ways than others to connect and show that you’re listening – as an example if you’re always taking a gift and moving it to your focus (centering the conversation around yourself) you’re not a very giving conversation partner. We all know that person: they are always saying “Oh I did that too!” and it feels like one very long game of “anything you can do, I could do better!”

On the flip side, if you’re constantly asking questions and throwing focus away from you and your personal life/person, then you might be holding the people you’re talking to at arm’s length, which is an issue in itself!

The middle is generally the “best” place when using gifts – you want to both have time to ask questions and get the other person talking more AND you want to add your information to further the connection with the other person.

Gifts aren’t something that you’ll immediately understand and succeed in using perfectly every time – and you shouldn’t expect to be an amazing active listener. Take time to develop these skills and as always, reflect on your progress and let us know if you need help!

I am a little strict on the YES in YES AND.

ICYMI my obsession: it’s the idea of affirmation and elevation. You’re taking someone else’s thought or idea and you’re affirming it – whether you agree with it or not – and adding information in a way that equalizes the two versus elevating one over another.

As a quick example: 

Person A: I love nachos.
Person B: Yes, you love nachos and I think burritos are better.

Easy peasy.

The other side of YES AND is the YES BUT or NO BUT. There are a whole bunch of issues that come up when you use BUT in ideation, creation, conversation – what happens when you use it in a relationship?

You Elevate Yourself
The word BUT pits two things against one another – if you’re saying BUT to another person and their opinion, you’re essentially elevating yourself and your opinion. Think about it:

Person A: I want nachos for dinner!
Person B: Yes, you want nachos for dinner, but I want burritos.

You’ve made your “I” statement more important than the other statement. When someone hears a BUT consistently and feels like the other person is elevating themselves they’re going to stop communicating eventually.

You Shut Someone Down
The word BUT also shuts someone down. That last example with nachos and burritos? By saying “But I want burritos” closes the conversation off to more discussion. Alternatively, if you said “And I want burritos” you could easily add a “let’s compromise and do both!” or “maybe we can something else” or any other comment that can further the conversation. AND leaves things open for opportunities – BUT shuts it down.

You Don’t Listen
I see this more often than I like: when someone is constantly using the word BUT, they are only concerned with what they want to add to the conversation and say. They don’t think about what the other person is saying, what their opinion is – they just want to add their thoughts and have learned how to do so what the word BUT.

Next time you hear it, take a beat and think: did they listen? Are they shutting you down? Do you feel like they are elevating their thoughts over yours? They might not being malicious or doing it intentionally – often that’s the effect.

YESSSSSS

That amazing thing you’ve been waiting for HAS HAPPENED.

CELEBRATE!
THROW A PARADE!
CONFETTI ALL DAY EVERY DAY!

::Time out, Saved By The Bell style::

Your thoughts immediately start racing – what if you start bragging? It’s really hard to talk about accomplishments to loved ones much less to folks at work! What happens when you have to – or you want to – tell people about this AMAZING THING THAT HAPPENED? Better just not to do it right, hide it and not worry about what others think?

Wow does that feel awful though.

We started teaching our Unhumble class a few years ago for this very reason: folks have a hard time talking about their accomplishments. We’re told often (especially as women) to be humble, don’t brag – but why? Sure, there’s an issue when another person only talks about their accomplishments all the time, and never gets excited for another person. But what happens when people are proud of what they accomplished AND they care about other people? Should they not talk about things because of how another person might feel?

This is one of the most BS things that I’ve heard people say: don’t talk too much about accomplishments because you’ll make other people feel bad.

When I started Fearless, my other business, a woman told me that a friend of hers was constantly feeling bad when she saw other people in the group talk about their accomplishments. “But I’m just a [insert her identifier here.]”

That, my friends, is her thing.

I firmly believe that people don’t talk about their accomplishments to make other people feel bad. Sure, there are some sociopaths out there – and other people that will always think the grass is greener on the other side and ask “why her, why not me?” But I think we’ve been trained to play small for several reasons – none of which matter, as long as we work to undo this.

What does it mean to be UNHUMBLE? Well, simply put, it’s the idea of being proud of your accomplishments, talking about them, and not playing small in efforts to help someone else. Think about being humble: it’s being modest, without pride.

Shouldn’t we be proud of ourselves and our hard work?

I’m not saying be arrogant, thinking you are the greatest thing since sliced bread – I am saying that it’s not as black and white as you might think with bragging or not. I truly believe the difference between unhumble and arrogant is how much you care about another person’s successes and wins. If you don’t care, and think you’re better than everyone else – you’re probably arrogant.

I remember an entrepreneur group that I was taking part in a few months ago, and a newer full-time entrepreneur commented that she couldn’t seem to find people “on her level” to talk to. I still remember when she said that – the whole room took a moment and then more than half brought it up to me afterward. I was a little shocked myself, honestly, because she had JUST started running her business full time, and before that, was working in fairly well-paying jobs while doing her work.

This isn’t to say she didn’t work hard – this is to say that if you read our last blog on status, she was in the wrong end of high status, and shows the line between unhumble and arrogant. I believe that if she acknowledged some amazing entrepreneurs that existed (and were in the room!) maybe she wouldn’t have come across in such a way that damaged relationships. Assertive communication is great: elevating yourself over others unnecessarily looks like you’re overcompensating.

So what happens when you find that line between being unhumble and being arrogant? You might end up altering a few relationships – some people are not huge fans of people that take pride in their work.

Repeat after me: people will always like you. People will always dislike you. Sometimes, you’re going to be liked or disliked no matter what you do – so why not be enough for yourself?

If you’re proud of something, and you’re also proud of other people for their wins – you’ll start tapping into other people who are like you. There will be people that are not a fan of this newfound pride: find folks that are, and keep celebrating your – and their – wins.

The Status We Take

Work relationships can be messy. Think about it – you’re in a place where folks either “have” to be or “want” to be – and sometimes both. This creates some strange wants and needs when people are communicating, and even stranger relationship dynamics can develop.

I’ll be honest, I’m not a fan of work friendships or relationships. It’s too messy, and if you know me, you might know that I’m always saying, “be more than your job!” Friendships and relationships are a big part of it: if you spend all day with people at work only to go home and hang out with them after work, you’re either going to be best friends or hate each other eventually. It gets weird and awkward when someone has to be an assertive communicator and the other person is more comfortable being passive, or if a conflict arises at work that feels a bit too close to the friendship.

Even if you avoid work friendships and romantic relationships like me, you’re going to bump into status issues in relationships that are strictly colleague-focused only. Status is a fascinating thing to explore: as it’s something that we’re not always aware of when we’re thinking about our communication and listening skills. It refers to how we view ourselves in reference to other people and taps back into early improv commedia dell’arte: from traditional kings and their status versus court jesters and theirs.

We can show our status in a few different ways when we communicate. For our purposes, we’re going to look at status in movement, posture, speech, and interaction with others. This might not be the case with every interaction you have: pay attention to when these traits come out.

Movement and Posture

If you’re the higher status person in an interaction, chances are your movements are focused, quiet and confident. You’ll have firm handshakes, directed gestures. Your head won’t be zipping around from person to person; rather you’ll move it only slightly and make clear eye contact. You’re standing upright but not still, open chest (meaning, not curled shoulders) and you look relaxed.

On the flip side, if you’re embodying low status, you’re less directed and almost unsure with your movements. You might be nervous, jerky, stiff or tight with your movements. You’re not making eye contact, and you’re looking around – and moving your head around – a lot. Shoulders are probably curled and tight, and you might be bent over and stiff.

Speech

Speech is a big tell with status, only followed by posture in my opinion. With high status, you’re talking in a deeper, relaxed and normal pitch. You might yell or whisper if it’s appropriate to the situation. On the flip side, if you’re taking on low status, you’re probably quiet, mumbling, high pitched or talking fast. In women, this is where we hear and see the “head voice” come out – that voice that folks call “shrill”? Lower status tell.

Interaction With Others

This one is a doozy: when you’re taking the high status, you’re touching people all the time. You’re laying a hand on someone’s shoulder, picking lint off of someone, and connecting. You also might be staring another person down if you’re USING your high status. Low status is going to shy away from touching others and pulling back from unwanted contact.

The doozy comes in when people have issues touching too much: I witnessed an interaction where a woman hugged a friend of mine and he pulled away. The next time she saw him, she tried to hug him again, and he firmly said “no” – to which she said, “Oh I knew you were uncomfortable!”

Then. Why. Hug. Again. You. Sociopath.

I think people can “bully” and take advantage of physical contact – or simply just not read the room and understand their status isn’t a confident high status…but an intimidating one. Which leads us to…

So what does this all mean?!Status is equal parts fascinating and intimidating: high status seems like a confidence move, right? Yet in that last example, the high status of the woman was negative! It’s not a choice to move high or low status: it’s a constant dance to how you want to be perceived and how you want to use status for your advantage.

Here’s an example: you’re coming into a job interview. What status do you want show? Probably high in some areas and lower – but not low in others!

Here’s another: you’re going into a meeting with your boss. High or low? Again, a combo of both will probably yield the best results. What if you’re the boss – again! – probably a combo.

Your homework: pay attention to those relationships you have at work (and beyond!) and see them for the status. You might be surprised! 

When My Confidence Broke

A few years ago, my confidence broke.

I didn’t see it coming. It also didn’t happen quickly, like a breaking bone.

Rewind my life a few years, and you’ll find me hiding at home, avoiding interactions. Things like meetings and calls were way too much to handle. I had to stay home “for the dog!” “to save money!” “because I had a headache!” – and none of these things were true or necessary.

This wasn’t “just” a confidence thing – I had massive PMDD induced depression and I stayed home. When I got better – ie therapy, meds and caring for myself – I still wanted to hide.

My confidence was broken.

I didn’t know who I was anymore. Social situations were scary because I had no idea how to navigate them anymore – before my depression, I would have a few drinks and be fine. Alcohol was a social lubricant for me, as it is for many people. When I started getting better, I didn’t want to go back to drinking, so I didn’t.

Only now I had to navigate being a social and public person, minus the alcohol, plus massive self-awareness after therapy. Did I mention I had no confidence left?

You’re probably wondering why I am teaching folks to be the best version of themselves and to speak confidently.

Well, I got my confidence back. It wasn’t a day, or a week or month or even a year. I am 100% still working on it. It started coming back when I started to hold myself accountable to other people. I couldn’t keep promises to myself, so I just started showing up for the other people who needed me. Maybe they didn’t need me as much as I thought they did, but let me tell you – thinking that I needed to show up for others because they needed it? That worked.

When I showed up for others, I realized that I couldn’t keep doing this. Showing up for someone else all the time and leaving my needs for whatever time was left? Woof. It was almost ironic, the thing that got me out quickly became the thing that was making me feel stuck all over again.

So I started showing up for myself. I learned how to set boundaries, and weirdly enough, it made me feel more confident. For the first time in my people-pleasing life, I was telling people no, standing up for myself and cutting ties with toxic individuals.

I was finally doing what I spent so much time teaching.

And while I’m not “fixed” or back to being the most confident person in a room – if I ever was – I can safely say that I’m not hiding. And here’s the thing: if I can come back from where I was and rebuild, you can build your confidence too. Promise.

Ever watch someone talk and you just trust them immediately? A little of that is a fancy hat trick called charisma, and a lot of that is all about the perceived idea of confidence. But why does confidence matter so much? Shouldn’t our work speak for itself? I wish! And I bet sometimes you do too. What’s not fun – when we see people get far based on their confidence alone.

That’s not you though – you’re talented and your work is amazing. But you might be lacking that confidence part of things and thinking WHY does this matter?

There are a few reasons that confidence matters – here are our favorites:

  • We Trust Confidence

    We are often persuaded by trust. If you’re seen as trustworthy, chances are you’re telling the truth, being sincere and generally reliable. Trust is powerful! When folks are showing confidence, they are probably being real – and while some folks may not like the “realness” (you know what I’m talking about!) folks will like to be around someone that isn’t lying, being fake and constantly letting folks down.

    Confidence builds trust!

  • We Feel Connected to Confident People

    Research shows that our minds wander about 50% of the time. Yikes.

    Think about the last person you talked to that you’d describe as confident – I am willing to bet all the nachos that that person paid attention to you – or whatever was happening – and did so without missing a beat.

    Confident folks might be drifting all over the place – they don’t show it. When we see that connection that isn’t nervously scattered all over the place, we see them as someone that cares and someone that we can trust.

    Confidence builds connections!

  • Confident People Listen and Help

    Connecting to the last point, confident people listen to others. They also help people out – generally, they aren’t worried if someone else “looks better” – they don’t have that whole “pie of success is finite” thing. And they are respectful of boundaries and the associated “no” that might come along if they are helping out!

    Confident people listen and help out.

These three things are reason enough to work on building your confidence – and simple to start! Be trustworthy, connect and listen. While I’m a big proponent of doing your own thing, these three are simple enough to work on, and will lead to finding yours!

Amid new year resolution land, new you, are you finding yourself attacked by your inner critic? Here are a few common situations – and the start of solutions. Remember, you can’t fix your self-doubt voice in a day – so give yourself time and grace to improve!

You ignore your successes and focus on your failures…
But it’s so easy to fixate on failures! Never mind everything else, look where I screwed up.

This one hits personally.

I can remember being so down that a book proposal I submitted to agents was getting turned down, agent after agent. This was after my book came out to great reviews, and people were (and still are!) getting excited. And all I could think about was my proposal being turned down. Didn’t matter that I had a book out, I was headed to SXSWedu in the spring – all my self-worth was tied up into that proposal, and I clearly couldn’t do anything right.

Except for all the other cool stuff I have going on including my fricken book.

…so try celebrating mini successes…or any success.
Spend as much time with the wins as with the losses. Seriously – if you spend days on your “loss” (or like me, a week being terrible to myself) then you should be able to spend that much time with a win.

Sound hard? Yeah, because the negative can be oh-so-easy to focus on. Flip the script.


You’re focused on being perfect…
Perfectionism is one of the biggest causes of imposter syndrome. You think you have to be perfect, get it 100% right and be amazing all the time, right?

See even writing it out and I bet you reading it sounds weird. Would you ask your friend to be that “perfect” and never make a mistake? What about your partner or family? Probably not. Give yourself some grace and remember that you’re human.

…so try failing on purpose.
This is probably giving you anxiety just thinking about it. Hear me out: try a new hobby. Recently, I tried to make macarons – you know those almond French cookies that are bright and beautiful and expensive? Found a recipe, grabbed the ingredients – I cook all the time! This will be fine!

They. Were. Terrible.

Stuck to the pan undercooked terrible.

And you know what? It felt great to be “huh, ok I’m not good at this right now (and maybe never!) For now, I’m going to spend money on someone else making macarons.


You feel like taking help is a failure…
I can do it myself! I don’t need anyone’s help!

There’s so much therapy tied in there.

If you’re feeling that you can only do things yourself otherwise it’s a failure of your character or hard work, take a breath and know that you’re not alone. While all of these are very specific kinds of imposter syndrome, this one is a big one: the individual. You feel as though you have to be able to do it yourself, not lean on others, and that’s the only way you’re not a fraud.

…so try asking for help.
Do it. Ask for someone to do something for you. Even if it’s a small task that you know you could do with more hours in the day. Take a breath and ask someone to do it and look! Your world won’t end, you’re not a failure because you asked for some support. This doesn’t even have to be a thing you need – it can be a simple ask to start getting you in the habit of not doing everything yourself.


You’ve surrounded yourself with jerks…
This is a hard one – sometimes our self-talk isn’t OUR self-talk – it’s a reflection of what other people say to us. It comes out in our darkest moments – and sometimes just too often in general.

If you’re not sure if it’s someone else, take a moment to listen, really listen, to the people around you. Are they making you feel bad? Are they saying things that you’ve ALSO been saying, and when you dig in, the negative self-talk comes from them?

…so try giving them a time out.
Be busy. Block their texts. Stop talking to them. Being around people like that does nothing…and if you understood how much they projected their insecurities on you, you wouldn’t take them seriously.

Be well, friends.

 

Sometimes, we don’t feel confident but we have to look confident. I’ve been there – headed into a meeting and I have to psych myself up before I get there. My husband calls those moments the “yips” – you get in your head and psych yourself out and you need to project confidence. Maybe you can find it within – or maybe you need to tap into these four steps to look confident:

  1. Confident Stance

    Ready? Stand up with your feet under your knees, under your hips, under your shoulders, with your feet about five to six inches apart. Make sure you’ve for your weight on both legs, not over to one side of the other. Keep your shoulders back (not rolled forward) and turn towards other people, letting your chest and heart facing them when you’re talking to them.

    Be sure your head is upright – you want to imagine a balloon attached to the top of your head, holding you up straight.

  2. Make Eye Contact

    Eye contact makes you look honest and confident –it builds trust. If you don’t make eye contact or look at someone in the eyebrows (even if their eyebrows are on point!) you’re going to appear insecure and nervous, or aloof and as if you’re lying or hiding something.

    Make eye contact when possible, and when you look away, look up or out versus down. Think about why we look down – we’re embarrassed or feel shame.

  3. Speak Slowly

    Rushed mindless chatter filled with ums and ahs is a hallmark of being nervous. Slow it down! Not robotic slow or so slow that everyone falls asleep. Make sure your words have purpose and meaning. A nice way to think about this one: your words are currency and you should spend money wisely.

    By paying attention to how you’re saying what you’re saying, you’re going to automatically slow it down. By slowing down, you not only look confident, but you also show care for your words!

  4. Silence

    Repeat after me: silence is confident! The problem happens when silences are forced on you. When you take a silence: a moment to let the audience think and reflect, a pause, or a break in your cadence – you’re taking a moment to acknowledge the audience and connect with them.

    Scared about taking a silence? Think about the alternative: mindless chatter because you’re nervous. Take the silence.

 

Why is My Inner Critic So Loud?New Year, New You, am I right?! The gyms are packed, our classes are jammed, and it will be like this until mid-March when folks start to get tired of their resolutions and start going back to their old habits.

That won’t be you this year, right?

It’s ok if it is. Resolutions are trash, intentions are amazing – but we’ll talk about that later.

I do want to make a pact with you right now – we’re in 2020 and making this happen. Let’s make 2020 the year we both work on our confidence, ok? I don’t know about you, but I’ve wasted way too much time doubting my abilities and myself. That nagging voice needs to go, and this is the year I’m going to be louder than that critic. I’m not going to kid myself and say “Hey! I’m going to get rid of the little voice that tells me that I can’t” but I am going to build up my positive self-talk so that voice stands out.

That’s just one of the ways YOU can up your confidence. Here are eight more that can get you and me on the same page for our 2020 agreement:

  1. Ask your inner critic questions

    – ask why you feel like you’re not good enough, and then ask for proof. Factual evidence that you’re a fraud. I’m willing to bet all the nachos there is little evidence.

  2. Breathe and unclench your butt

    – if you’re carrying tension, people you talk to are going to feel tense. This is a favorite of ours: clench your butt and say hello, now unclench your butt and say hello. Hear the difference?

  3. Yes And yourself and your accomplishments

    – Yes And is the magic improv phrase that helps the world get along. Kidding, but not? Think of a recent accomplishment – you responded to that stressful email. Now throw some Yes And magic at it: Yes And it took a lot of energy. Yes And it went better than expected. Yes And now it’s done.

  4. Make a confident body happen

    your posture matters. If you’re all scrunched up, you’re going to feel all scrunched up inside. Connect your feet with the floor, stand with your shoulders open versus tightly forward. If you’re sitting or standing, unclench that butt.

  5. Celebrate all the wins

    – answered two emails? WOO! Cleaned up some clutter? YES! Organized some receipts? YOU WIN. Don’t ignore the positive, even if it feels small. You nitpick the little bad things, why not the little good things?

  6. Fail Freely

    – if you make a mistake, embrace it. Remember, failure is better than regret. Always.

  7. What’s your theme song?

    We play a game called Hot Spot with folks that can handle it – one person starts in the center and starts singing a song. Everyone joins in, and when someone else is ready, they tap the middle person, take their place and start a new song. The focus is often to be confident on the spot and support the people around you. The focus for you? Find that song that makes you feel invincible and belt it as loud as you can.

  8. Remember you aren’t pizza

    – not everyone is going to like you. Heck, there are people out there that don’t like pizza! Pizza isn’t mad. Pizza is PIZZA.

If you need help, hit me up. If I need help, I’ll let you know through this blog, social media or carrier pigeon! Promise.

At this point, we all know that public speaking is feared more than death. No surprises there, but in all these years that we’ve been throwing out these stats, why are we still here? It might be something to bring up the human reactions of fight or flight – why we succeed or freeze when we’re in situations of public speaking and presentation skills, but beyond that, we still have to do it – whether we like it or not. Because of that exciting fact, it’s in your best interest to get better – here are three tips to nail your next presentation, all focused and grounded in improv:

  1. Practice like you play

    I performed off-Broadway for almost 10 years, toured with a few national tours based in improv and performed in my fair share of Chicagoland improv. We rehearsed for everything – even in my NYC years, we rehearsed every single Wednesday evening in prep for our weekend shows, and it showed when we didn’t. Worse, it showed when we didn’t take rehearsal seriously and just screwed around the entire time.

    When you practice in a lax manner, you’re going to play in that same lax manner.

    If you’re practicing whatever you’re going to do that matters to you in a way that shows it DOES NOT matter, do you know how that’s going to look when the moment is here? It’s going to look like it doesn’t matter to you. Worse, if you don’t practice? It’s going to show.

  2. Warm-up prior

    Before every show I’ve ever done, we warmed up. Anything from running around to get energy up to quick thinking games to singing and getting in the moment. Why warm-up? Well, would you warm up before a run? Yeah? Same idea! We use muscles to speak and when we’re talking for an extended period of time and don’t warm up, we end up losing our voice, tripping on words and forgetting what we’re supposed to be doing because we aren’t tapped into the moment.

  3. Raise your stakes

    No one wants to see an ordinary moment in an improv show. They want to see an ELEVATED moment that is heightened from the every day. When you raise the stakes in improv moments, you suddenly start to care quite a bit more and things matter.

    In real life, if you start to raise the stakes, things start to matter a bit more and you start investing more energy and care into what you’re saying. Don’t let this slide all the way to feeling neurotic about everything – because it’s not the end of the world if you make a mistake – at the same time, if you invest more energy and care into what you’re doing, it’s going to show.

BONUS: Fail often. The more you fail in public speaking moments, the more you learn, and the better you get. If you keep playing it safe, you’re going to end up in the same place you started: being nervous about public speaking.

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